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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
向来都不喜欢伪纪录片形式的恐怖片，假装弄个手持摄影，结果就是吓人的手段永远都是镜头转动时突然来个面目狰狞的鬼脸。
我真的对湾湾拍的这类题材毫无感觉。导演太想搞特出了，结尾的“恶意”更显刻意。何况又搞伪纪录片我最烦的那一套，这么一看全是减分项……
一开始就好奇这片子为什么不同这几年的台湾影视几乎都讲闽南语，而是基本讲国语，最后才知道是个trick
虽然叙事清晰流畅度上有瑕疵，惊吓点拼凑的略有破碎感，但这片基本水准是绝对过硬的，没有令成熟理智的影迷失望。各种惊吓桥段拍的非常地道，心理暗示、视觉残留等小巧思也颇具匠心。只是预告片里实在不该把阿清嫂扑面那段剪进去，严重影响了大众观影后对影片恐怖程度的评估，那本是影片最大的记忆点。另外，主角一行三人在村子里的遭遇拍的真的很好，诡异感层层叠加，氛围极佳。
伪纪录片，下咒题材都不新颖了，故事讲得也是稀碎，加上没有意义的穿插叙事，实在没意思，后半段全程两倍速看完的。故事有一种“今天是大黑佛母诞辰，请把这条消息转发到5个群，就能延年益寿”的感觉。
这是虚构的咒语哎；而且大黑佛母设定就是「恶意之神」并且片名和主题都自带“咒”.... 你观看前就应该接受被下咒的准备，可这特么是电影哎！这只是电影哎！相反导演还玩成功了打破第四面墙的“互动”病毒营销手法。关于《困》的主题据说是亲情惊悚，为啥我感觉《咒》才是....
在影片与观众的交互上处理的相当好，咒语、图案和频闪下的视觉暂留，已经成功的在影片外部传达了恐惧的因子，其带来的讨论热度及衍生效应要远超Jump scare的惊悚瞬间。真正的败笔之处在于无法赋予影像以合理性——无处不在的摄像机消解了「伪纪录片」负载的临场感，演员处于一种「真实」和排演间的模糊地带，全知视角直接摧毁了主观影像纪录的效力，于前所做的一切铺垫可以说是自废武功。
也是没想过看个恐怖片就是导演纯粹为了恶心别人的。什么恶心拍什么。柯孟融可真棒。
常年不会被鬼片打倒的我看完出了一身冷汗且持续后怕中
没有失望！一部恐怖片竟让我感动了好几次！就情节上来说其实可以看做那个不能说名字的游戏的姐妹篇！父母为了救自己的孩子究竟可以做到何种地步！！！
审美真的很不错很多画面非常好看三星都给美术了,但整体质感更像恐怖游戏而且因为非要用类似伪记录片的手法拍就挺出戏的,伪记录片形式在恐怖片里都饱和了吧,而且也没卷出什么名堂甚至一部不如一部...和观众互动的部分想法很好但最后的视觉错觉本该可以更出彩让恐怖真的从屏幕蔓延出现实的然而没达到那个效果有点可惜
“福祸相依，生死有命”，大黑佛母应该知道这句话包含的无奈吧，若男破坏了地道里的封印，对大黑佛母是福是祸呢，江湖险恶，大黑佛母这种能力不强没有知名度的外来小角色肯定会被其他鬼神打的灰飞烟灭了。
真的是服了……一直被女主这个自私又蠢到家的女人带节奏….你是在拍真人秀吗…..看完电影有一种吃了屎的感觉…
我知道咒语的剧透，但还是挺晦气的。和真实事件毫不相干，字幕献给小天使hmmm。后面那段介绍故意一个字一个字写在图腾中心，然后突然白背景视觉残影。 造像和名字都很藏，换成苯教对于我来说更有说服力。
这种中式民俗恐怖很对味，氛围营造真的很吓人，大银幕观看的话我可能会中途离场。
为了让观众记住符号和咒语，导演真的很努力了~
其实还行？这种民俗题材看看有点意思 安排结构也挺不错 但就是演员有点刻意 中间以为要走还愿的路线 这点还挺喜欢的 但结尾有点冗长😂
手持摄影机这种pov 手法，想想具体人物动作就会出戏到爆。糟糕的《中邪》以及更糟糕的《灵媒》都是这个问题。伪纪录片想达成效果，就要摒弃很多仪式化表演，恐怖感的设计是完全另一种形式。《咒》故事平平，设定臃肿，感觉是七拼八凑出来的产物。当然，说归说，大中午看还是被吓得七荤八素的……
像极了早年间网络上疯传的恶意诅咒邮件，制作组真是充满了恶意。给我点赞，诅咒自动反弹给制作组！
看预告片就行了，吓人的镜头全在预告片里……
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