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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
多给颗星表示支持，尚气被国内舆论黑的厉害，事实上压根没什么辱华问题，国内早该上映了。
1.VFX还不如《晴雅集》，大决战的模型质感堪比页游，漫威不懂这种“东方感”的质地是什么，做得特别廉价；2.动作戏处理得很好，有几场竟有很有港片风范，有点儿惊喜，在奇幻和功夫之间拿捏住了分寸；3.核心戏剧冲突仍然是意识形态冲突；4.但电影里的内容，远不及电影外的万分之一的精彩。
PS：我不理解的是，一位有天赋有个性的诙谐女主，成了西方人审美刻意乳化的理由
打低分是因为剧情不能忍。PS，所有以ZZ借口给电影扣帽子的喷子都是屎，不配来评价电影。
本来只是软弱，看着妈被人家杀了都没出手，去美国待了几年变成了一个傻屌，莫名其妙要杀爹。
最后男主的颜值确实有点..一言难尽啊。但是奥卡菲娜好可爱！
虽然逻辑有硬伤，但是我真是没想到有生之年能在荧幕上看到xxx打他爸，外加梁朝伟的颜值，两点值两星！
不失为一部娱乐性十足的喜剧电影，除此之外，也没太多惊喜。前面有点致敬Speed，十环和天上飞下来都有点像功夫，最后龙飞天的镜头稍微老土，变成纳尼亚或者黄金罗盘那种类型的童话故事的感觉。和其他漫威相比，有一点down grade。
梁朝伟对元华说：小子，跟我说话客气点，我吃的盐比你吃的饭还要多。最后梁朝伟帅死了。
作为虎迷+漫威迷的我而言，真的是等的望眼欲穿，虽然效果还是不尽如人意，但能看到就好。这大概是最没有存在感的漫威英雄了，所谓的十环好像也没啥特别的功能，而这十环帮感觉还没洪兴人多，得亏了梁朝伟的出现，让这部电影在情感层面不至于太过单薄，但也正是这样导致电影失衡更加明显，当伟仔深邃的眼神遇上表情木讷的尚气，让人很难去理解这个英雄的做法。不过东方元素的运用还是比花木兰好些，至少那条龙血统够纯正。
In Loving Memory Of Brad Allan，一位伟大的武师。
真的没看出来哪里辱华
导演很明确这是给西方的武侠片/武打片爱好者看的电影，不是拍给中国观众看的，所以才会看到各种模仿老港片的场景和动作设计。
西人不习惯写华文化。所以全程benkingsley最佳。无聊行货。偶尔有台词提了中式家庭古旧观念。production design太丑了细节露馅儿。太漫画风了红蓝对决的制服。初见对打挺酷的！电影被游戏化了。人类真的好懒好贱骨头不过是动物而已哈哈对文化只会符号化的挪用全球各个行业都是这种漫不经心的虚假繁荣吧。亚裔都太难看了演员有心做这行是好事但这个最终casting结果不能接受。表现美国年轻人的幽默感也很假嗨莫名其妙。配乐特别off那些歌
2.5 依然是所谓的东方符号堆砌、本质上和东方没啥关系的架空片，好莱坞对东方的幻想简直还停留在黄柳霜年代，时至今日居然还在看这样的老套情节，还在听和几十年前一样的“美式”东方音乐，婚纱照和神龙配色救命，大鱿鱼摄魂怪也毫无想象力，洛夫克拉夫特表示：我白养活你们了；京东又来大刷存在感——侧面表明预想中能上院线本应铁板钉钉的，结果.... 无论如何都啥年头了竟连一部根本不用当回事的漫威片都无法在大银幕看到，这才是最讽刺的事
纪念下疫情后首次影院观影。漫威最好的起源故事、超越冬兵的武指水平、致敬东方文化的精致场景……都是值得去贡献票房的理由，当然还有本作最大赢家和看点——演技压爆全场、撑起全剧戏剧冲突的梁朝伟，本片应该改名为《徐文武和他的亚逼儿子》。当然漫威的老毛病免不了：过度破坏气氛的搞笑和敷衍赶场的节奏转折等，但考虑到这是当前漫威甚至好莱坞框架下，将中华武侠的精髓风骨与商业娱乐度平衡得最好的作品我原谅了它。另：本作乳滑不在台词或选角，而是它从根本上与中国观众一水相隔，这是一个 of the、by the、for the 北美华裔文化的优秀故事。
剧情真的很不错，梁朝伟演了一个被爱所困的人，你说他是坏人，几千年前是这样的直到他遇见了映丽，他想成为好人，可他犯过的错太多了，最后把十环传给了尚气，结束了自己几千年的生命去寻找他所爱之人了
只是一个思念妻子的情种而已，甚至觉得黑化的理由很合理。伟仔carry全场，但故事真的槽多无口，有些角色死得没头没尾的...
而你把你自己的儿子当杀手，你选择了十环而不是我们
在一切的乱七八糟之余，完全清晰的可以看出《卧虎藏龙》《一代宗师》的经典打斗（俞秀莲玉娇龙、周润发章子怡，梁朝伟章子怡）、剪辑、BGM（尤其卧虎藏龙）的模式被借用…… 有一种它们都已经被historicized、简化成了随意引用取用的模式的年代。
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