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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
这种以小见大能把人带回到现场，但总有种不见全章的困顿感，感觉会影响对历史的理解。
电影其实质量还不错，如果没有结尾那几行“注解”，也许就不会有洗白张伯伦的争议了。
我们不禁要联想：目前东乌就是当年的苏台德区吗？世界该如何应对？就在今天，乌军与乌东当地武装还干起来了。千万别打仗！尤其千万别打世界大战！
第一眼很像是那种典型的英国片：调度冷静有秩、演员卖力表现，但立意却只是隔靴搔痒，其实不然。当然，电影本身的情绪还是克制的,但不乏充满情感力量的时刻，大人物们一边心存幻想，一边努力添点筹码；小角色们从魏玛时期走出，那是末日降临前的狂欢，眼看相信的一切被碾作尘土，最后只能沦入籍籍无名，或者去当那扑火的飞蛾。从上到下，所有人用尽全力，在万众疯狂面前仍嫌太少。
不算差，也不算惊艳的电影。手持一样晃动的镜头有代入感和现实感，作为一个讲历史故事的电影，画面的质感怀旧却不显陈旧。人物的塑造没有特别突出，无论是历史人物还是虚构人物，都并不是影片的重点，感觉人更多是为了故事情节服务的。当然，张伯伦那个角色的“天真”和“自私“是比较明显的，男主Hugh可以有更丰富的内容，比如他和妻子家庭的关系，小家庭与大家国的关系，即使不需要特别展开但现在也刻画得太浅。从叙事的角度，中规中矩，没有什么特别惊艳或令人可以拍案叫绝的叙事方式，伏笔的展开也不算深刻。
很一般，食之无味，本应很紧张的一个历史桥段像闹着玩一样，双男主也拯救不了。
3.5，主角个人的部分还是很喜欢的，尤爱对青春时光的回溯。但对历史事件的叙述着力太轻，使得本该有的紧迫氛围趋于虚浮。
看来Historical fiction就完完全全是我的菜。就喜欢这种虚实交替的感觉，虽然已经知道了结局，但仍然能被人物所揪心。还有那种历史大潮面前个人的无力感。唉，我又想把Fall of Giants再翻出来读一遍了
阻止不了,但是,,历史中的人物还是在挣扎.
关键情节看得很紧张，历史从来不是只有一面，人性泯灭太残酷了，希望种族主义能灭绝。
除了杰瑞米艾恩斯的表演外，这部电影可以说毫无是处
战争，战争，战争，面对战争一切皆是虚无，人命由天不由己！
十年过去 仍然记得中学历史书上张伯伦的那张照片“我们已经拿到了和平的保证”。是的，希望，是指望别人做一些事来改变，但是，we have to fight，and I will definitely fight。看完这样的历史战争片总是内耗太大，不动一枪一火却能感受到其中的紧张。老板给我的感觉还真的和首相一样，日理万机之间跟你抽空说几分钟……
框架在那里，怎么填都可以，就看导演聪不聪明了，两位男主的互动简直怀疑是导演故意用来让观众忽视剧本bug的
情节不算特别精彩，四平八稳的历史同人，不愧是《王冠》导演，最大看点和亮点不是两个年轻的主角，而是杰瑞米艾恩斯饰演的张伯伦，毕竟以他的立场展现慕尼黑会议的影视作品并不多。
第一次在Netflix看片...想起剑桥五杰...想去oxford念书
真实历史之下架空的故事让发挥的空间小得多，虽然片子在某种程度上给出了对于张伯伦想法的解释，但是片尾字幕硬是夸大慕尼黑谈判给战争胜利带来的意义却也可笑。
看的时候忍不住刷了一下手机，因为今天早上新闻说美国随时准备出兵乌克兰一旦俄罗斯有任何行动
好看！不知道历史上张伯伦是不是真这么考虑的
元首说为了争取生存空间。英国人让人有距离感。两个年轻人人突然变成了能扭转世界的最重要人物，叙事的手法很像《人类群星闪耀时》，但是重要的人物还是张伯伦，他的意思是面对混蛋我也只能陪他玩，然后在全世界面前出丑，其实是在妥协。最后男主回到家跟久违了老婆是要去参军，好残忍，但是那也是他对这乱世的回应方法，就像保罗没能出手杀希特勒一样真实，人在某个时候的全部情绪堆积而成的选择，真实而不容细想。
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