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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
国产版罗生门，没有流量，演员演技一般，但胜在靠剧本把故事逻辑圆上了。
这种new sex让我想起了金基德的莫比乌斯
“孩子的话，谁信？” “瞎子说的话，谁信？”
最后加了个长镜头，推向深渊。真着假假，假假真真。讲的有多假，故事就有多真。画面有多真，故事就有多假。
在院线片绝迹的时候能看到这个，算是淘到宝了啊，氛围营造的很到位，一众演员们的演技也都在线，网大崛起？？？
比《钛》要好一些，没什么深奥的，也不需要阐释，对性的戏仿并无新意。对于社交媒介（表演性）的嘲讽，对于人自恋的嘲讽，对于人亲密关系的怀疑，也都比较表面化。有一点加缪的冷漠，有一点卡夫卡的异化。其实与其如此，还不如干脆做成影像装置行为艺术，比如像博伊斯的《如何向一只死兔子解释绘画》那样。
对未来的另类书写，手术演化为一种新式性爱。
概念上以切割和痛感作为新型性爱模式，试图颠覆所谓传统和体制，但大段对话如论文般空泛无趣，概念的新奇散去之后便落入符号隐喻的窠臼。而概念本身其实也很单薄，如今用药物/暴力/濒死体验换取性快感的现实并不亚于电影，而阶级隐喻/环境污染等内核又挖得太浅，总觉得柯南伯格的想象力开始匮乏。摄影也有点阴间，看完只想要一打old fashioned sex来冲喜😂😂😂
为啥柯南伯格总是「高潮铺满整片」会显得全片只剩下噱头记忆，毫无厚度可言
从第三个人开始讲故事 就确定了一件事 编剧肯定是个80后
故事讲的比很多院线电影好的多的多，完全不恐怖，没有鬼，特效也还行吧。就是名字取的不讨喜，耽误了。
Dream is the Eternal Sex.
很不错啊，剧情精彩，完成度也很高，真挺好的，分好低
意外地还不错，国产《罗生门》。正经人谁半夜讲鬼故事啊？人心才是最恶的鬼。
通过“折磨”身体表达艺术、性爱和政治态度，地下艺术展，未成立的器官部门，崇尚新进化的邪教和无处不在又毫无作用的官方卧底，一场大秀下的政治生态很有未来感，但故事感觉没讲好，人物关系和对白确实挺乱
苍白，孱弱，性无能，以工业垃圾与生物排泄物为食...人类再经过无数次的自我改造与反叛后，一种美丽而胶质化的新生命诞生了
编剧是很不错的，整个故事完整，深度可以，就是人物塑造的有点差意思，导致有些反转认不清楚人。故事很好，就是导演水平欠佳，演员演技有些地方还是有些尬，特效乍一看还可以，多了就是很假。如果有大投资，这个剧本再完善下，多半小时剧情可以拍的更好。至少没有快进很舒服的看完了全集，比现在很多院线电影强多了
不是精神病也不是做梦或者臆想什么的，这回改酒鬼讲故事了，拍的还算比较工整吧
挺好了，观感没有大问题。愈发痛恨农村的各种人事，只能说能躲远点就躲远点吧。
切实感受到一种暴力的身体美学，也因为这不愿意打差评。但是一切都架构在空洞的概念和批评鲁本时候又有什么区别。我就是小K那个old sex，畸形新性癖我看不懂但我大受震撼。
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