The story appears simple on the surface, but is revealed, especially after multiple viewings, as more multi-layered and textured than Cassavetes at his best. Ostensibly it concerns a 14-year old Catholic girl, Wynne (Agutter) growing up in this post-modern wasteland, who develops a crush on her much older adoptive brother (Marshall)- a crush which perversely deepens and grows into infatuation once she starts to believe he is the local sex killer. This is in itself an idea that makes you sit up and jolt, but as the narrative develops, it continues not necessarily along a linear path but in several confusing and fascinating directions: the family's history, (detailed effectively in chilling flashback during an improvised seance) is a chequered one, and has suffered at least one major relocation and upheaval in the last ten years. At the crux, however, it's the depiction of socialal changes that make I Start Counting so fascinating and elevate its language far beyond the confines of the standard horror film. The major subtext- that teenage girls were maturing more quickly than before, and developing full sexual and romantic appetites (even if in thought rather than deed) but were not possessed of enough discretion to make the right choices- was a step forward for a genre in which its young females had previously been portrayed as bimbo victims (Cover Girl Killer and The Night Caller spring to mind), but not one that all viewers would necessarily agree with. But most striking of all, and possibly the most enduring image which the viewer will take away with them, is of the masterful symbolism with which director Greene invests every shot. Every inch of the Kinch family's world- their house, their walls, their TV, Agutters underwear, bedroom furniture and toys, Sutcliffe's clothes, Marshalls van, the local Catholic church, their town centre, their record shop) - is painted a bright, scintillating white- a white which, by inference, is slowly becoming smudged and corrupted with the dirt of the outside world. White also symbolises, of course, purity and innocence (two qualities Catholic schoolgirls are supposed to hold dear), and it is into this world of innocence that the ever-present red bus (a symbol of violation and penetration), conducted by the lecherous yet similarly juvenile Simon Ward, makes regular journeys. The allegory is further expanded in one scene where Agutter believes she sees the Christ figure in church weeping blood: by the time we acknowledge it, its gone, but the seed has already been planted. Rarely in a genre production has the use of colour and background been so important or effective in creating a uniformity of mood. I Start Counting is as near-perfect an end to a decade as one could hope for, and exactly the kind of film people should be making now- which is, of course, exactly why they never will. A genre essential. by D.R.
2022-04-23
桥老则老矣，演这种有钱又有点丧的文青还是手到擒来啊。即别人的故事是别人的故事我只是个开麦拉（。还真是。驹子日记那段跟看电影似的，但就算打破第四面墙火场里她还是朝叶子的方向跑过去，最近的距离是擦过肩膀。ps奈绪真是楚楚动人啊，眼睛总是湿漉漉的
发挥了小说10%的内涵吧。不过，一千个读者有一千个哈姆雷特。大概导演只是把文字翻译成视频，至于升华全靠观者自我发挥
两个人不同的讲述比较有意思，准备去看看原著，剧情是不是原来就是如此的矫情。。。
没看过原著，雪国景色好美，有机会看看原著吧
哎，我是真不喜欢苦情戏。不过话说回来，就算大家都这么矫情，把想说的话都通通憋在心里不说，大部分的时候剧情还蛮抓人的。主要是主角演技好，这个叫奈绪的女演员有点厉害啊。这戏看到最后，总觉得缺了点什么，然后深深叹了一口气，舒服了，圆满了。哎。。。以前记得也出现过这样的情况，是看<半生缘>的时候。爱情就是这么做作。苦心经营，敌不过命数啊。
益生菌和奈绪都是好演员，可不晓得为什么，在这样的故事里完全撑不住；尤其奈绪，跟和服姿天生八字不合。尽管这是个严格依照小说顺序做的剧本，却反而看得人愈发吃力，还不如做得跟肥皂剧一样，说不定更好看呢。
没看过原著。不过挺喜欢电影里的意境和念白式的推进。徒劳，無駄，一个是岛村先生的用词，一个是驹子的用词，一个用局外人的眼光看，一个从局中人的角度看，但意思都一样。我很爱你，我为你做了那么多，可是有什么用，有人依然会死，有人如期离去，独剩那个依然有所期盼的女子，在雪中等待。
呃…充斥着电影城质感，开头居然是走着穿越隧道的，并且火车车窗叶子倒影那么重要的片段简直敷衍，精神专一的改编完全扼杀了驹子与叶子那种双生一般相爱相杀的联结（女性之间的情感在后期川端其实成为了很重要的命题…真的是白瞎了那么好看的奈绪
大师就是大师，把简单的三人关系写的这样百转千回。这部小说和电影，都与芥川龙之介的《南京的基督》有颇高相似度，先以男性视角讲述，再用女性视角收尾。这种在特定封闭时空发生的感情，说难听点儿，就像养了一条狗，男人只是把女人当一个特别的、调剂的、娱乐性的寄托，而对女人来说那却是全部。
到底错过了哪里？我怎么没看懂女主和叶子的关系？
高桥一生和奈绪的选角都不太适合这类文学体裁，即便人物情绪浓烈也无法有代入感，散发出一股照章行事而非创作的感觉。前者没有文人气质，后者的台词有点棒读，演这类题材整体上功底都不太够。森田望智倒是相对较能融入这类题材的气质氛围。过量的旁白来推动剧情是一枚险棋，除非演员旁白功力特好加上编剧特别会写，才会有加乘效果。雪景很美。
奈绪确实很美。最后也很炙热。但是总感觉不是那么好
多年以后回望这段时间徒劳感也是喝多了几杯子假酒
这一版，搞懂了驹子和行男，以及驹子和岛村。但是驹子和叶子，被高人指点了……川端康成笔下的人物关系，完全靠猜啊……
因为记性不好，买了两次小说，至今还是一遍都没有看完，记忆最深刻的是前十几页的文字描写。
蕞新版《雪国》电影！
毫无疑问，这个导演、编剧自作聪明，自以为使这篇小说完整了，使电视上呈现的不像原著那么晦涩了，但却把一种美沦落为俗套，以致没有仔细看过原著的人还以为这就是一个四角恋故事。可悲。
看完原著来了，网上找不到老版本的资源，只有这个了，叶子不如我看书时想象的样子，驹子比较接近，岛村无论是外形还是气质，都不是我看书时的那种感觉，之所以给四星，是对在这个喧嚣的时代还愿意拍这种安静的电影的鼓励。
如果我是70多岁的老太太看这个影片应该会挺伤心的 老人的描写有点猎奇啊
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