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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
就说人家男人是武大郎，就算你风流倜傥，西门庆也没你那么猴急！
老雷和历史题材最配。从朱迪科莫的视角段落这部电影才真正开始。
狗子能看到又不是有鬼
科隆人与原母体之争。以后生育率继续下降，人类会以这样的形式继续繁衍生息么？
简介里的“罗生门”并不准确，确切的说是用三个不同角色的视角展现了同样情节的故事，最终每个人坚定地站在自己的立场上，可悲又可笑。借古讽今丝毫不落俗套。比如吴签事件众生相本片皆有角色对照（如：女主“好姐妹”的背叛代表了多少愿为男神维护形象甚至献身的迷妹们），而最后的决斗，输赢又有什么重要
前两段叙事略显冗余，只有两处对比比较有意思：一是卡鲁日与玛格丽特对于告知被强暴那天晚上的记忆，二是勒·格里与玛格丽特对于强暴当天的记忆。
优美又忧伤。以后大半夜不能看这种催泪的片子。
学会认命道别，接受更新替代，论如何在苹果跨国大资本企业主导包装下政治正确地翻拍《逃出克隆岛》和《第六日》；开篇就用一个心灵鸡汤老梗拍浪漫邂逅，也以此定下全片塑料感基调，强行煽情精致缺乏灵魂，跟《她》完全木有可比性；不过演员都挺靠谱，能撑下戏，如果林家珍的戏份多点就好了
我不懂，都可以完美克隆了绝症怎么还治不好？（对不起我有点杠）
我之所以是我
苹果公司制作，一场对科技取代人类裹挟的美化，其心可榷。为什么人死了其周围的人没有权利选择新的生活？这不是死者的全能自恋与自私么。但是转念一想，如果阿珉去世前弄了这么个玩意儿取代自己，我应该不会像现在这么难过吧。但又转念一想，没有人能取代阿珉阿？？？她留下的“人”已经不是她了，又有什么意义呢？我不愿接受一个长得和她一模一样的人，我只想要她。
2.5。结构性闪回叙事在这部片子里起到的立场强化作用被最后一章“真相”中决斗的悲怆感消解得所剩无几。要不是结尾赫然打出“尚德卡鲁日数年后在十字军东征战死”的字幕略带暗讽意味的找补一下，就连现行立场的正确性也都不是那么让人笃信了。
很喜欢这种强设定的概念，人为制造一个困境，再拷问人心，道德和伦理。只是故事后来没顶上去。
看了三分之一我终于知道为什么票房低了，用多重视角来讲故事我觉得完全没问题，但是这个故事本身用多重视角其实并不增加可看性或者趣味性，它开始讲第二遍的时候我都觉得有点难以接受。但老雷做导演的功力还是强的，而且演员们也都很老练，剧本是本马达联手写的这已经很不常见了。
以科幻外衣为包裹的家庭亲情片，感情线没问题，展示的未来科技也没问题，就是有点担心这种医学伦理，黑科技容易被人滥用吧？
可以到9分的电影，虽然很多评论觉得啰嗦琐碎重复，无意义的铺垫过多。不过挖彩蛋找不同，也是深度电影的乐趣之一。单纯就挑三段看似雷同的场景和运镜剪辑里，找细微差别，挖掘人物主观心理，就是一篇景然有趣的长文。到玛格丽特自述的时候，本片的立意和品质感陡然勃起。为什么一贯的好莱坞电影对于情色镜头都会有适当的表现，而本片几乎没有，即使是重口强奸的镜头也一点都没有多给。那就是出于女性主义立场，不满足男性观众的口味。不然两边不讨好，一方面是女性主义觉得裸露镜头是对女性的物化，对男性的讨好；而男性观众又觉得女性主义立场是对男性的冒犯和控诉。包括格力斯强奸玛格丽特时候的镜头，动作粗鲁傲慢，且时间飞快，也是对所谓自命不凡的采花贼的反讽吧。其颠覆性不仅仅在于对那个时代男权思想的抨击，即使在今天依然有申诉表达的意义。
电影是好的，但当下这种气候，这样的叙事也过于安全保守了吧~
厉害的是人物视角变化后的一些细节，就连强奸戏，男性视角相比女性都会简化或者说“美化”很多。只有女性视角才表现出眼泪鼻涕，歇斯底里。一度想给五星，后半小时还是有点过于白给了，把现代女权觉醒的意识套到那个时代。
科幻片
阿里不愧是各种最佳男配拿到手软的神人，一人分饰两角，每个都性格鲜明、忠于人设，希望他能够凭本片拿到最佳男主，黑人男演员里他应该是可以接替摩根弗里曼、史皇来挑大梁的人了。
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