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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
前半段比较无聊，前两代出现之后开始有趣起来了。粉丝向电影，卖个情怀。马律师客串了，开心！
21世纪最伟大的发明：智能拔舌器---当感应到白男每分钟说话数超过10句时会啪的一声自动弹射出刀片把他们舌头割下来，你们真的太聒噪了！求求漫威了抖机灵的频率过高了ok？！情怀耍的还不如《惊声尖叫5》，炒作130天是合理的吗，远不如第二部爽，甚至不如《黑寡妇》是可以讲的吗。荷兰弟只有裸体那个镜头可以看
剧本太烂了，大概是疫情限制了拍摄场地，只能把故事放在纽约一城展开，甚至主要就仨场景来回倒，格局太小。唯一亮眼之处是奇异博士追逐蜘蛛侠那段，出现了高线公园。第二部的城市风光旅游大片没了，前两部加分的青春校园元素也没了，那就啥都不剩了。
看来漫威嫌《永恒族》里圣母拯救世界还不够，小蜘蛛这圣母要拯救平行宇宙了。剧情有点无趣，但这情怀的一击力道是够的。前面《尚气》和《永恒族》都能得到一颗星，这片打四星算是很低了。
两大泪点，一是看到托比马奎尔的老蜘蛛侠出来，二是梅姨的牺牲。圣母蜘蛛侠让人差点想锤屏，好在后续造就了第三代蜘蛛侠的“成长”主题。其实也就漫威主流商业超英类型手法，加分是情怀分。期待已久的三代蜘蛛侠同框，以及那些核心反派的回归让这部新蜘蛛侠大放异彩，然后三代话痨相互玩蜘蛛侠的梗，告慰自己的苦难史。最成功的是漫威借此大跨步迈入多元宇宙，为其第四阶段的故事线做了一个非常好的铺垫。7.6
编剧的立意很好，让众人都忘记蜘蛛侠，然后重新开始，一个崭新的开始！蜘蛛侠在咖啡店没有选择与女友再次相识，学会隐忍是一种成长，离开即保护。
圣母与权力意志的较量，最后竟然被好心人拯救？这是最隐形也最傲慢的传教。不愧是好莱坞，不愧是迪士尼。
有点乱，但是看到三个蜘蛛侠都来了还是挺激动
2、远离熊孩子和熊家长；
其实只值四星，多一星为三虫同框+长时间的等待！
彩蛋1对接毒液2的彩蛋，串起来看就知道是怎么肥4，也为毒液在MCU完成铺垫。（汤老师大概率要换人了…）
在我看来有前后很矛盾。多元宇宙的共存首先可以视为一次多种族矛盾的和解，以往那种人—兽，人—机械的二元对立，可以被一个人兽/人机杂交的赛博格形象整合（《水形物语》），手段或许是足矣战胜奇异博士魔法的斯塔克科技。其中蜥蜴人、机器人、电气黑人，都被视为有一种善的本性，只不过错误运用科技误入歧途；白人男性/精神病患者绿魔成为没有种族属性的背锅人，或许值得拯救但是在歧视链条末端。这是表面上政治正确的地方。矛盾点在于，多元宇宙意味一种存在主义意味的存在的可能性，意味着人或许可以选择各样的活法，成为机器人、成为蜥蜴人或者报复社会，而影片则选择一种净化，让所有人都重回本质（本质主义仍是一种歧视）—包括蜘蛛侠自身，多元宇宙的他们都一个样，无非换个亲人死而已。就像《搜索者》看似是种族通婚其实是教黑人如何成为白人
他们三个有没有意识到，为什么他们的亲人都会死，而且都说了一样的话？这到底是谁的错？这一定是世界的错！（而我的两星全给前两代蜘蛛侠🤗）
怎么说呢，三颗星全部拿来感谢这部让我看到超绝可爱的前两代蜘蛛侠相亲相爱抱一起开背，至于第三代，呃，这一部黑他黑的，我要是粉我已经上大街举牌抗议了
荷里活的特效產業已經為Marvel訂製了一套作業系統了吧，重量不重質、低精細高產率、創意罐頭化，要的就是短平快。他們清楚，做得差一點，沒有人會計較的。
终于是看完了，情怀真的拉满！静下来仔细想想也有一些硬伤，比如降智的奇异博士 圣母的彼得帕克。但是在看的过程中真的是充满了惊喜与感动
啥啊这，妥妥的工业垃圾。没想到漫威惯用的传统的超级英雄叙事模板一建立在愚蠢的发展逻辑与幼稚的行事动机上，一切试图传达的成长意义与价值观念便在顷刻间分崩离析，一切力图情绪共鸣的时刻也随之变成毫无关怀实质的任务化流程，最后剩下的只有一段让人倍感活该的儿戏且毫无情感力量的梗活堆积。用两个多小时仍呈现不好一个角色的变化弧线，三个宇宙大混杂到最后除了徒有其表的情怀没留下一丁点实质性的触动，对老绿魔的短暂重塑看着都比荷兰弟顺眼得多——然而全片的核心意图却是像工具般功能化地使用其它角色促成荷兰弟这个无脑角色毫无说服力的个人成长。看来只要有了平行宇宙这般作弊设定后便可以胡乱地堆叠商业符号，在应接不暇的“情怀”冲击下继续捞取和消费观众们对一个个ip的信任和记忆，从这也基本可以看出漫威现今格局与眼界之浅薄与狭窄
但是，我对蜘蛛侠的爱，依然没变
真踏马无语 找奇异擦屁股然后把屎糊他脸上的感觉…谁会喜欢这种巨婴蜘蛛侠啊
超级讨厌第三代蜘蛛侠，一开始选角的时候我最希望荷兰弟演了，当时看过海啸奇迹，还觉得他演技很好。结果蜘蛛侠直接拉垮，对演员的印象也不好。这部电影整个就很拉垮，把第一第二代蜘蛛侠也写油腻了。
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